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Tim D
Joined: 28 Mar 2014 Posts: 45 Location: Red Hook
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:58 pm Post subject: Wheel question? |
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Ok, so I am new to the site and relitivley new to mountain biking. I have a trance X 29. Because of all the things I read I was seriously contomplating upgrading my wheels. My question is. Is it really worth it? I am thinking mavic crossmax slr. I would go from about 2100 gr. to about 1640. With lighter tires I would be saving about. 3/4 of a pound on each wheel. So for those of you who have done big wheel upgrades. Is it like "oh yeah I think I feel a difference" or more like "holy crap man! My bike is so much better now". Talking about spending a $1000.
Thanks in advance for your opinions.
Tim D. |
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GG Veep
Joined: 25 Sep 2008 Posts: 907 Location: new splatz
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi and welcome again!
I noticed a difference when I started riding light wheels....it's definitely easier to climb and negotiate obstacles. Going tubeless is great too, if you haven't already done so...not that it's significantly lighter or anything, but you can run lower tire pressure and get excellent traction. |
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harry
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 94 Location: mill river ma
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:20 pm Post subject: you could get a set of Stan's wheels. same weight, about 1/2 |
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the cost. I definetly recommend light wheels. Best upgrade you can make |
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jamesframes
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 2655 Location: new paltz, NY
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Forest_biker
Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 859
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Tim,
I'd just stick to the wheelset you've got.
It's Spring, a messy unpredictable season.
Ride the sh@t out of them through all the slop and grit of Spring, bang them off of rocks until your skills sharpen again and the spokes start to break and/or the hub gives out.
Then after you burned through the Winter coat and worn out the wheels set, you'll need new wheels anyway!
Losing five pounds is a whole lot cheaper than going with a lighter wheelset. |
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Tim D
Joined: 28 Mar 2014 Posts: 45 Location: Red Hook
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Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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thanks for the replys. forest biker, i get what your saying thats my plan with my road bike. cant aford to lose any more weight. i moved and lost 10lbs and i was only at 158 to start with. more replys welcome. |
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burtondogs
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 633
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:13 am Post subject: |
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Not sure about the Giant wheelset.....but.....
My Std Specialized 29 wheelset was terrible .
Always out of true & so many flats.
I got the Mavic Crossmax 29 UST.
Was worth ever dime....in my opinion.
Ride felt great.....
No more messing around with the wheels or fixing flats all the time. |
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GG Veep
Joined: 25 Sep 2008 Posts: 907 Location: new splatz
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:18 am Post subject: |
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Light wheels are also durable...you should be able to ride the sh*t out of them! |
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smctigue
Joined: 26 Mar 2013 Posts: 98 Location: Union Vale
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Another vote for Stan's. Light on their own then factor no tube or heavy UST tire means very light rotational weight. |
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stevelei
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 498
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:10 am Post subject: |
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I recommend looking at going with wider rims there are still some rims out there that have internal rim width of 19mm. Wider rims take full advantage of the tires foot print, better traction and cornering. Narrow rims with wider tires can cause lateral flex/roll when cornering.
As for hubs consider hubs with higher engagement points. Some hubs for example Shimano have low engagement points in the free hub body you can feel a gap before the next engagement. Higher engagement hubs have very low lag time. These hubs feel great punching out of corners or anytime jumping on the pedals after coasting.
Both Hope and DT Swiss hubs are easily convertible to thru-axles.
Stan's-Notubes Arch Ex or Flow rims
Hope or DT Swiss hubs
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Tech-Tuesday--Wider-Rims-Are-Better-and-Why-Tubeless-Tires-Burp-.html
"When climbing a technical climb with lots of rocks and ledges the near instant engagement makes timing of pedal wheelies and weight shifts much easier and precise. These hubs eliminate the “dead spot” when you pedal 10-20 degrees with no engagement. This dead spot can cause your weight to move forward before your bike moves forward often shifting you out of position. Better engagement also allows you to keep your feet more level when ratchet pedaling, requiring less downward movement to achieve the same amount of forward progress."
"Even while descending the quick engagement allows you to apply power to the pedals a hair quicker coming out of corners. This leads to a feeling of being more precise and in control."
- See more at: http://betterride.net/blog/2012/another-upgrade-than-can-help-your-mtb-riding/#sthash.T0MxwHi0.dpuf _________________ Best
Steve
Revolution Bicycles
190 Main Street
Saugerties, NY 12477
845-246-1492
www.revolutionbikesny.com |
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Tim845
Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Posts: 3684 Location: Poughkeepsie
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I would wear that wheel set out, carbon wheels are likely to be sub $1k next year.
That being said though, light wheels have more impact on 29ers. Like the hp boost of a performance exhaust (but not a turbo).
Maybe have a local shop build these up with your choice of hubs:
http://www.light-bicycle.com/ _________________ Pedal, b*tches!! |
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Tim D
Joined: 28 Mar 2014 Posts: 45 Location: Red Hook
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Now that's a good way to put it. I can understand "a proformance exhaust not a turbo" some of the guys on other forums make is sound like a light stiff wheel set will turn a 85 ford escort into a Ferrari. Being just an average rider who doesnt race I would hate to drop a G and feel little to no difference.
Much like road biking. I ride an older aluminum frame and have friends who are telling me carbon bikes are "amazing" "so fast" you know all that. |
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