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zachfeuer



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Trail conditions? Reply with quote

Has anyone been out at Jockey Hill or 909 in the last couple of days? Curious if enough snow has melted that it's possible to ride without a Fat Bike or ice skates?
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DrDave



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:00 am    Post subject: trail conditions? Reply with quote

I rode at Stewert yesterday, Jan 5th. Most of the trails are clear with a little thin ice in the ruts here and there that can be avoided.The icy spots should shrink a bit more every day. I was on a fatty but met someone on a regular bike.He seemed to be doing fine. If you can ride when the temp is over freezing the ice will soften up and there should be no problems.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Trail conditions? Reply with quote

zachfeuer wrote:
Has anyone been out at Jockey Hill or 909 in the last couple of days? Curious if enough snow has melted that it's possible to ride without a Fat Bike or ice skates?


I was at Jockey on Sunday 1/8. Its very interesting. The singletrack trails were mostly clear right down to the leaves (about 3 feet wide)

The trail edges (past the 3 feet wide) and the roads (jockey and woods) were a mix of snow and ice. If you stayed on the snow which could sustain my fat bike and I on top it was very rideable and enjoyable.

You can definitely ride with a normal sized tire with no studs. You just have to be cautious to avoid the ice spots and ride on the snow where possible and once you get to singletrack its great.

The temps are going to warm up to 50 degrees for Wed/Thurs that will make things a little moist from snow melt and change conditions somewhat. Probably won't be able to ride on top of the snow.
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zachfeuer



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Trail conditions? Reply with quote

Thanks for the updates - would be a great resource to have this thread going all winter. I rode 909 today. The double track was packed powder over ice. The single track was groomed by at least 5 fat bikes before me so it was very rideable (with some effort) on my XC bike and 2.1 tires. Only the trails closer to the lot had a lot of grooming done on them. Timbuktu and the Super D course had only a few lines going through them and would be a little tougher to stay on with a non-fat bike. To the side of the grooming was some serious tire eating frost heave - so needed to take the popular line or go down.


zachfeuer wrote:
Has anyone been out at Jockey Hill or 909 in the last couple of days? Curious if enough snow has melted that it's possible to ride without a Fat Bike or ice skates?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ice was about 90% off the singletrack @ 909 today. Mud wasnt too bad. The heaves are probably going to be around a bit & they might be a little better on a fatter tire. Less heaves in Pond Gut.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:39 pm    Post subject: 909 Saturday 1/14 Reply with quote

I'm up in Albany so not sure how much rain was received down south. Do you think the trails will be frozen again tomorrow?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All trails here should be fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be excellent tomorrow at Farrington at 8.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone ride 909 this past weekend, how are the conditions for non fat tire bikes?
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Jim



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

909 should be clear for any bike.
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zachfeuer



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:44 pm    Post subject: 1/17 909 conditions Reply with quote

Trails are in good shape at 909 as of 1/17. Minimal frost heave, a little bit of ice on the double track. As it warms up this week and rains- I expect the single track to get muddy and be susceptible to damage.
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Tim845



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Above freezing & 909 is a mess with 3" of frosty slush.
Not ridable.
Also, the dirt road was plowed and that's a mud mess. I can't remember the last time it was plowed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

50 minutes from Po'k to Yorktown and conditions there are very good.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good conditions @ the 909, and most other spots. Studs or fat not essential.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info Tim! So I can ride my Surly 29'r with 2.4 tires on it at 909 with no problem?? I rode my other Surly with 3.0 tires at ferncliff yesterday afternoon and it wasn't too bad in most spots but still snow on all trails there.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 1:30 pm    Post subject: Lake taghkanic Reply with quote

Lake taghkanic trails are minty fresh. Ride on top 'magic snow'. A couple inches of totally frozen with an inch of soft on top. Leaning into turns without studs.
1-1.5hours of riding at a brisk pace.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bob- Its not like a riding in June, you might run into hiking tracks on Byk Hed that suck on a rigid. You might also run into "hero snow" that is fast riding and great traction.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Tim, sounds good. Thanks again!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conditions change daily so keep us updated please
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not much of a winter rider...but 909 was amazing today on 2.1 race tires even. damn near perfect
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